Handel: Judas Maccabeus Overture

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Overture from the oratorio Judas Maccabeus.

  1. They both amazing
  2. Because Bach is too mainstream.. xD
  3. This piece rocks.
  4. Wow. What a 'free' and 'individual' character you are. Do feel free to contribute something useful whenever you feel like returning to normalcy
  5. The cake is a lie!
  6. chanuka
  7. Any person who uses the term "Judification" is not to be reasoned with. But I shall end on this. Your thought process, "the sources are the sources they don't change" doesn't take account of the fact of the huge number of extra sources found since then, and the effect this has on the overall picture. You can't see the wood for the trees.
  8. The Greek and Roman gods can be judged on their record, who still worships them? Within a few hundred years of meeting Christianity they were almost completely gone, despite increasingly aggressive Roman attempts to suppress it
  9. ...Efforts to cut military spending led to the acceptance into the Empire of huge barbarian tribes lock, stock and barrel who were granted residence and semi-independence on the basis that they would protect the borders from others. This plan, of using the barbarian to beat the barbarian, failed when the barbarians within the Roman Empire realised that Rome itself was now too weak to combat them. The final nail in the coffin was a particularly aggressive wave of tribal migrations (Hun driven)
  10. ..If not into 4 with the bizarre Caesar/Emperor military system established towards the end. The Roman Empire also fell because its vast military system needed expansion to survive, to pay and pension its military. When it reached its 'natural' limits it still found need for a huge army to hold the frontiers, yet no longer had a rich vein of revenue to tap into in plunder and virgin land...
  11. Your late 18th century thinking on the reason for the fall of the Roman Empire has long been defeated. I'm afraid Edward Gibbon, while still admirable, is no longer at the cutting-edge of historicism. The Roman Empire fell because like all systems it was imperfect. Infighting over the position of Emperor was inevitable when one considers the massive power the position held and the lack of any qualifying features for the position other than wealth. This ultimately fractured the Empire into two...
  12. The Byzantine Empire survived for a thousand years after its western compatriot because it was united by faith through a system strong enough to outlast many assaults. That is thanks largely to one man- Constantine, who we all know to be the first Christian Emperor. Christianity, as Disraeli said, is the conclusion and superior level of Judaism, birthed indeed in the Holy Land but tended and bearing fruit in Europe.
  13. And if you are suggesting there is anything truly European about national socialism you are truly mistaken. A bit of savage Teutonism perhaps
  14. The Romans considered the Greeks to be lazy homosexuals and the Greeks thought of the Romans as uncouth, uncivilised barbarians. The two are quite distinct. The Byzantine Empire only survived so long as a bastard amalgamation of Greek and Roman because of its Christianity, and it was the powerful emotional force of Christianity that drove European civilisation
  15. The Greek and Roman God's were inferior and anachronistic, waiting to be subsumed by the superiority of the Judeo-Christian idea of one God, hence why they collapsed so fast. The Romans invaded Greece and both nations fell into luxurious depravity. If it wasn't for Christianity Europe would have fallen into a perpetual winter, ruled by pagan tribes and central asian nomads.
  16. Judeo-Christianity IS the European spirit. Before it and without it there was nothing but barbarism and heathenry
  17. The music makes the art work intense.
  18. It has nothing to do with the ugly kikes destroying the world at any place to any time. The spiritual problems rised by Judas Macchabeus at that time with the Romans is much more deeper as decadent rabbies and common mammon-perverse-kikes will ever found out.88!
  19. Handel had a great respect for the Jewish population in London for which this oratorio is dedicated,it's right up there with his other excellent works.TeleBachHand
  20. bach never dead. bach put in his music eternal ideals. mine of this was love of mankind. bach it is not only music, it is humens way with God. metal is only adrenalin music
  21. @urbis92 Musically Rock and Classical have similar roots so what your hearing isn't that different.
  22. @urbis92 if you think about it, a lot of the complex melodies of heavier stuff kinda sound like heavy classical, at least to me lol...so that's what I go with. Obviously that's not always the case but a lot of the times it seems to be
  23. @htenayk: Google image search is your friend. It's "the fall of the damned" by Rubens
  24. someone can tell me the name of the paint that's seen on 1:40?
  25. @urbis92 hi there - why not enjoy them both? There are different parts to the human soul and each has things it likes...